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position assumed a wonderful amal-body. Heretofore a member who
gamation of conflicting elements-a would identify himself with one of
fusion of an extraordinary charac- those organizations
was not re-
ter. Who would have presumed garded as a sound Catholic. In
that, for any purpose, the great this respect the strings have been
Catholic ecclesiastical organization loosened. The step means a more
would have tendered the olive powerful foothold of the Church in
branch to the sects which apostat- this country. Good Catholics will
ized from her, and make them an doubtless flock into these secret
offer of co-operation for the attain- bodies and permeate their ramifica-
ment of certain specific objects?
tions. The influence resultant can-
not well be overestimated.

they were the chosen ones to lead in the desperate assault on the "Mormon” Church. For Mr. Moore, the applicant, Messrs. LeGrand Young, J. H. Moyle and R. W. Young appeared. Among the interested listeners were Apostle J. H. Smith, M. W. Merrill and A. H. Lund. During the proceedings, whenever any of the witnesses made a particularly pointed assertion against the Church, a loud guffaw would arise from the throats of the non-"Mormons" both within and outside of the railing.

The attitude of Cardinal Gib- R. N. Baskin announced that bons and the Catholic Congress in Wm. H. Dickson and himself had relation been engaged to appear on behalf of to Anarchism, Nihilism the "Liberals," or those objecting and kindred destructive agen-to the naturalization of "Mormons."

Mr. Dickson said they were ready to go on, but might not be completed today, as some of the witnesses had not yet been reached.

Court This investigation is rather a novel one, and a reasonable time will be given; but it must not be

JOHN BOND

church in 1869; have been through the Endowment House; this was January 25, 1886; I took an oath or obligation there; they gave a grip of the hand (described by the witness) which was a token of the Aaronić Priesthood.

This portion of the subject naturally causes the mind to revert to another the union of Church and State. The accusation of blending the two in one has been improperly made against the Latter-day Saints. cies cannot but be admired. All Allegations have also been made in well-wishers of the race will take the same direction regarding the and maintain a similar position on Catholic Church. We claim that this important subject. there is no reason why any We regret, however, that a reprecitizen should be debarred from par- sentative body of Catholics should ticipation in State affairs on the so far forget the obligation of relig-delayed too long. ground that he belongs to a particu-ious tolerance as to take a belligerlar religion, no matter what it may ent stand against a people who was the first witness: He testifiedbe, whether Catholic or otherwise. heretofore esteemed them for I have been a "Mormon;" left the The objection seems to be, however, their fairness. At the opening of when an ecclesiastical organization the Congress, the brilliant and eloas a whole engages in State matters. quent Daniel Dougherty paid Will not many of the American a glowing tribute to Catholicism, in people feel that the position assumed the course of which he vividly aland now alluded to will emphasize luded to the persecutions to which that idea regarding the Catholics as the Church had been subjected. a body? But they are powerful, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latclaiming to number about one-sixth ter-day Saints han also a record of of the population of this country. wrongs endured, wonderful and pitiThey constitute a great political fac-ful in its character, considering the tor, capable perhaps of turning the limited age of the organization.andi of initiating members into the scales in a general election. In this How then can the Catholics consistconnection the presence of the Presi-ently dent of the Republic and the Secretary of State at the religious cere mony of the dedication of a Catholic university is suggestive. This article may be properly conThere is a marked expression included by the dropping of a word of relation to the Pope, which shows advice to the Saints, to the effect that Catholics are not disposed to that they should consider the signs conciliate, in one particular, the of the times, which are multiplying class who charge them with not and ripening on every hand. They being good citizens because of cer- should not be discouraged, but rather rejoice because of the neartain peculiarities of their religion: ness of their redemption. The sun is shining brightly behind the gathering clouds.

"We cannot conclude without recording our solemn conviction that absolute freedom of the Holy See is equally indispensable to the church and the welfare of humanity. We demand, in the name of humanity and justice, that this freedom be scrupulously respected by all secular governments. We protest against the assump. tion by any such government of the right to affect the interests or control the acts of our Holy Father by any form of legislation or any other public act to which his full approbation has not been previously given."

The lifting of the ban of the Church from secret societies, so long as their objects are work and beneficent, is a new departure on the part of the Catholics as a

exhibit toward another

Church a spirit partaking of the
sa ne genius as that of which they
so strongly complain?

"MORMONS" AND CITIZENSHIP.

Mr. Moyle-The court said this examination should be confined to an oath against the government.

Court-Anything that does not tend to establish that will be irrelevant. I understand the counsel here is ignorant of the modus oper

Church, and must let the witness state what was done, and the court will determine if there is anything that is incompatible with citizenship. If it is shown that anything is immaterial we will not allow it.

Mr. Moyle-We have no objection to the obligation referred to, but we do object to any obligation that does not relate to the government.

R. W. Young objected to any ceremony or obligation but that alleged to be in relation to the government.

Mr. Dickson said there were several obligations that were antagonistic to the government.

Court-Let the witness state what transpired, but not unnecessarily expose the procedure, except in regard to this oath.

Le Grand Young inquired whether all the minutia of the Endowment ceremony was to be testified to. This man, Moore, was accused of taking an oath against the govern ment, and the court had stated that the inquiry would be confiued to the alleged oath.

Thursday, November 14th, Judge Anderson called up the application of John Moore, for naturalization, which had been objected to because he had been through the Endowment House, it being alleged that all who took an oath that is incompatible transpired. received the Endowment ceremony Court-Let the witness state what with the duties of a citizen. The witness Bond testified The large Federal court room was went through several rooms; in filled with a multitude, mostly non-room 5 I took what I call an obliga"Mormons," eager to hear the anticipated exposure of the Endowment ceremonies. Baskin and Dickson had seats in front, alongside of Lipman, and it was seen that

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tion, named the Aaronic Priesthood, which confined me to obey every doctrine of the Church, especially against the government of the Unit ed States. The penalty was tha

I was to have my throat cut and my tongue torn out. Then I was required to take an oath that I would avenge the blood of Joseph Smith on this nation, and teach my children and my children's children to the latest generation. The penalty was to have my heart and bowels torn out. Another obligation was to obey the Priesthood in all things. Wilford Woodruff put me through this ceremony and married me. I was sorry I took the oath, and resigned from the Church the next year. I did not want to go through, but I had asked Harrison Sperry to marry me.

Mr. Moyle objected to this as immaterial. Objection overruled.

Bond continued-Sperry sent me to the Bishop, who said he could not marry me, but would give me a recommend to the Endowment House, which I took.

Mr. Moyle asked the conrt whether it would confine the evidence to that which was legal.

Court-The witness may proceed. Mr. Moyle-The reason for Bond's action has no relation to Mr. Moore. This proceeding is without warrant of law.

Court-I think if the applicant has taken an obligation that is incompatible with citizenship, he cannot be admitted. He swore that

he did not take such an oath. Mr. Moyle-Will this man state the oath that Moore took?

Mr. Dickson-No, he will not. Court-If it is not shown that Moore took it, it will not affect him. Mr. Baskin-Moore has admitted that he is a member of the "Mormon" church. We will show that any man who belongs to the "Mormon" church should not have citi zenship extended to him. We expect to convince this court that no man who belongs to that organization bas any right to citizenship. We may not bring the oath home to Mr. Moore. We propose to show what the Endowment ceremonies

are.

Court-This investigation may be attended with important consequences. If it is shown that it is a necessary part of a "Mormon" to take this oath, it should be known. It depends whether membership in that Church is inconsistent with citizenship. It is claimed that this

can be shown.

ness.

worst

Bond-I am a conscientious wit-It was John W. Young, of Iron County, cousin to John W. Young Mr. Young-I always find men of this city. It was not Joseph W. who are not conscientious making Young, the emigration agent. such declarations. We only want LeGrand Young-We move that you to tell the truth. this be stricken out, as having no Witness Bond-I lived at Henne- connection with the endowment fer at the time; I could not get ceremony. This highway robbery married without. I tried to get and murder, one of the away from the Territory last year, stories I ever heard of, is rung in because of what I have been here to prejudice the application of through. I took an obligation to a man who had not the remotest avenge the blood of the Prophets connection with it. No man preon the United States. I took the tends to justify this crime. If this obligation to go into polygamy. I man is honest, why has he not told denounced the whole thing the it to the grand jury? following year. The obligations were apart from the Endowment ceremony. I always did as I was told in the Church.

MARTIN D. WARDELL,

who was very deaf, testified-I live over the Sixth Ward bridge; am a contractor; am 67; was born in England and came to Pennsylvania in 1848; joined the Mormons in 1847; came to Utah in 1862; in my business I superintended carpenter work for the Church six years; in 1863 or 1864 I went through the Endowment House; I went through a second time about a year later; I took an oath that we would avenge the blood of Joseph Smith on this nation, from the President down; they put the lock on to us with an oath that if we revealed any of the secrets we would have our throats cut and our bowels torn out; we were asked to take an oath to obey the Church in all matters, but I backed out; I saw the death penalty inflicted on a man named Green, in 1862, about twenty miles west of Green River; W. H. Dame was captain of the train.

Le Grand Young-If this man knows of a crime he should be called before the grand jury.

Court-He may go before the grand jury, but he can tell it here.

Le Grand Young-It has nothing to do with Mr. Moore, if Wardell helped to commit a murder.

Witness continuing-Billy Williams, now dead, and Mark Surridge were there. Joseph Follett, of Cottonwood, saw the trouble; so did Dave McBride, of Iron County, and Blackburn, John W. Young, of Iron County; George Snyder, now dead, and others; my son George was there; he now lives at Peoa, Summit The witness Bond continued-County; Green, the man killed, had There were about 50 other persons two wagons, with three yoke of catthere who went through the same tle to each; a Gentile was with ceremony there were two polygam- Green; the latter was killed about 9 is's; my wife was asked if she would in the evening; when we allow her busband to take more got to the place Captain wives than one; a vote was taken Dame led me outside of the train; I and all responded "aye;" we took obligations not to divulge these ceremonies, and penalties were attached which I do not remember.

Le Grande Young-I am 45; went through in 1868; when the obligation in regard to polygamy was taken, male and females were in the same room; when the obligations or oaths were taken we were all together; some of the time the men were separated; I took the obligation about avenging the blood of the Prophets.

Mr. Young-You are an exceedingly willing witness.

saw eleven men, in buckskin clothes, whom he called mountaineers, and told me to warn people not to go outside of camp; at night Green was called by three men; he would not come, and they dragged him out; one caught him by the hair and another cut his throat; they got $5000 from him; some of us began to object, and John W. Young said if we did not shut up, we would be served the same; next day Dame said Green had apostatized once, and now he had apostatized and gone to hell; my son and the Gentile took Green's outfit to the Tithing yard.

Mr. Dickson-We wish to show

that the penalty of the Endowment House was enforced. We think we have done it. Dame's remarks meant that the man had gone back on his covenants. The penalty was to have his throat cut, and it was cut. There was a time when it was not safe for a man to tell this to a grand jury.

Baskin (to witness)-Was there anything said al out apostasy? Wardell-Yes, an apostate was to have his throat cut. Court-Let the objection to strike out be overruled. The testimony will be admitted.

He

Witness, to Mr. Young-I went through the Endowment House; the names of Joseph and Hyrum Smith and all of the martyrs were raestioned; so was the government of the United States. The murder I have told of was before I went through the Endowment House. The three men who took Green out of the wagon were seen by the others I have mentioned; one of the three was Bill Hickman; John R. Young was not there; there were more than ten of us present when the three men took him, and we did not try to save him. Green had a wife and two or three children. lived near Farmington; he told me he had had $5000; I saw the men take the money; I made no protest; we had no idea that the men were Danites, but they were. Bill Hickman was the captain; he afterwards told me he was there. I left the Church about five years after the killing. W. H. Dame lives south somewhere; he is the man who was with John D. Lee. I don't know whether or not Green had had his endowments; he told me men were spying about him, and he was timid about getting to Salt Lake; he did not say he was afraid of any penalty. We had traveled together from Wood River; there were about 70 wagons altogether. The three men took Green's body away with them. There was another man present, but I do not remember his name; he kept a green grocer store on First South Street; it was not Billy Gilbert, or Chadd, or Davis; it was Sanders. Several persons protested against the murder. These were Billy Williams, Follett, Surridge, Sanders and myself. Surridge after wards apostatized. Joseph Follett is now living near the mouth of Cottonwood.

LeGrand Young renewed his motion to strike out, because it was shown that the murder had no connection with the Church.

The court overruled the motion,

and said there might be a fair inference that the murder grew out of the fact that Green had been a member of the Church and had apostatized.

Mr. Moyle--It is not shown that any of these men who committed the crime were of the traveling company, or connected with the Church.

R. W. Young remarked that Mr. Moore would like to get through in time to vote at the next election. Baskin, sneeringly-It would be a great pity if a member of that organization should not be allowed to vote.

Court-If this man has taken such an obligation he should not be in a hurry.

ANDREW GAHOON

to be immoral, we were taught to To Mr. Young-I did not enter
be good men, and not to break any into any covenant to overthrow the
law of morality; only the doctrines government, but to sustain the
of the Church were considered kingdom of God against all others.
highest. I considered the general It was understood that we had to
teaching of the Church was in hos-establish the kingdom of God
tility to the law of the land, wherein against all other powers. No gov-
it advised obedience to the Priest- ernment was mentioned but it was
hood. I know instances but cannot implied, when we said we would
name one. I never heard it taught sustain the kingdom, that we would
directly that we were to take from go any way to sustain the kingdom
our foes. I never taught it, because of God. This was to be accomplished
I did not believe it; some did, but I by every means, persuasion and
cannot name who, except Lyman force, if necessary. That was the
Wight, at Adam-Ondi-Ahman. I teaching, but I do not remember
did not see it, but I did the results. what was said, I can't remember
Lyman Wight apostatized more than the ceremony, but it was that we
forty years ago. The doctrine of would sustain the kingdom against
taking from our enemies was not all other powers. The government
taught publicly. The Cahoon fami- of the United States was not men-
ly were not trusted with secrets. I tioned. They were careful not
was told it would be no harm to put to do so; they did not need to.
a man out of the way. I To Mr. Baskin- When I was
don't know that any man was Bishop, I was taught generally that
put out of the way. I don't remem-I had to endorse or embrace polyg-
ber any man who was referred to.amy or be damned; don't know of a
It was some man who had been in case of a man being found with his
some mischief. Never heard he was throat cut; I heard that Ike Potter
put out of the way. I was not con-
was so found.
nected with any of the work, and
don't know a man that was put out
of the way. I knew indirectly ihat
men were put out of the way, but
it is out of my power to name one.
Almon W. Babbitt was killed; I
don't know who did it, or who or-
dered it. I don't know that it was
ordered. But he was killed, and it
was reported that it was done by In-
dians. I don't know but what
Bill Hickman done the job.
Indians may have killed him.
I was never advised to break
the law of the land, but
was implied in the teaching to obey
the Priesthood. It was understood
that we should obey the Priesthood.

Mr. Moyle-I protest against such proceedings in the name of justice, because I know it is wrong.

The court said it should be known if there was an implied feeling of hostility to the government. If this was one of the penalties inflicted for revealing the secrets of the Endowment House, I think these instances can be shown. If it can be established that members took an oath of hostility to the government, and these penalties were executed, the nature of the ceremonies should that be known.

testified: I came to Utah in 1848;
Joined the church in 1833, in Kirt-
land; was a member till 1871; I was
a Bishop 18 years; was one when I
left the Church; I received my En-
dowments 44 years ago, and am
familiar with the ceremony so far
as my memory goes; never officiated;
got my endowments in 1815 or 18 16;
I took obligations there every
one has to; there are oaths
administered there; they relate
to obeying the Priesthood, and to
avenge the blood of the Prophets;
this was understood to mean Joseph
and Hyrum; the blood was to be
avenged on any who were guilty of
shedding the blood, or consented to
it; there was also a covenant to yield
implicit obedience, at all times, to
the Priesthood; the penalty was
death for revealing any of the se-
crets; I did not understand how the
penalty was to be inflicted; the un-
derstanding was that if a man apos-
tatized and divulged the secrets he never taught any one to disobey
should meet the death penalty; there the law of the land, and was never
was something about the throat asked to disobey it myself, or to tell
being cut, and being disemboweled; anyone to disobey it; that is a part
the right hand was also forfeited; of the instruction in the Endow-
one of the penalties was for ment. The Mormons regard a
disobedience to the Priesthood. The civil marriage as unauthorized.
highest allegiance was to the Mor- They do not say the offspring are
mon Church or the Kingdom of illegitimate. They regard marriages
God. There was nothing said of outside of the authority of the
obedience to the law of the govern- Priesthood as of no force in eternity.
ment. They were instructed that They taught a legal marriage, un-
polygamy was a command of God-der the law of the land, did not go
that all must endorse it or be into the other world. They married
damned; it was not practiced. There for time and eternity. They re-
is no age set for a person to go garded the marriage ceremony of the
through the Endowments. It was world as good while the parties
expected that all members would lived.
avail themselves of the privilege of
going through. A man cannot be
legally married except there, as the
Church does not recognize any other
marriage. A civil or legal marriage To Mr. Young-Joseph Smith
is considered good as long as par- and the leaders of the Mormons
ties live. They regard it as legal professed loyalty, but taught that
in the eyes of the law, but not the Government would be over-
legal as pertaining to the Priest- thrown, and the Kingdom of God
hood. This is taught in the En- would be established. They taught
that the Constitution was inspired,
To Mr. Young-In the obligations but it would be bettered by the
to avenge the blood of the Prophets, Priesthood; that time has been put
the idea conveyed was the blood of off from time to time. In the En-
all the Prophets and especially of dowment House they were careful
Joseph and Hyrum, on all connect- not to mention the Government of
ed with their death or who consented the United States.

dowment ceremony.

To Mr. Baskin-If a man not married by the Priesthood died, he would have no wife in the next world.

to it. There was an instruction of To Mr. Baskin-It was taught allegiance to the Church. There was that the kingdom of God would be no instruction to break the laws of established, and all other governthe land, but we were to obey the ments would be overthrown, and Priesthood. We were not taught the United States would be the first.

Mr. Moyle-Does the court mean to say that every murder committed in this Territory is to be charged against the Church?

Court-If they can show instances of where this penalty is enforced, that is proper.

Mr. Baskin-I propose to specify cases that the witness could not tell Mr. Young of.

Mr. Moyle-These witnesses are full of hostility to the Church in every way, and their understanding is not proper. We don't object to the truth, but we do to those hostile ideas.

Court-Let the witness answer. Witness-I heard of Ike Potter's death.

Mr. Baskin-Have you ever heard of any others who had their throats cut?

Objected to, as hearsay was not evidence. If the witness knew of anything they have no objection. Objection overruled.

Mr. Baskin-We have proven that oaths are taken under penalties of death. If we can show that there have been mysterious crimes committed in this Territory, that should have a bearing on this matter, and connects them with the Church.

Court--That might be an infer

ence.

Mr. Baskin-We can prove these penalties have been inflicted by Elders and members of the Church, and Potter's case is one.

Court-If a man enters into such an obligation, that is sufficient. Witness-I don't know anything about Nigger Tom's assassination.

It was understood that it was right for a man who had violated any of his oaths; a man would be saved if the penalty was inflicted. That doctrine has been taught in public. I don't remember the wording of these oaths. After being in the Church forty years, I came to the conclusion that a man could not be a good citizen and a faithful member of the Church.

To Mr. Young-Potter was a noted outlaw; I don't know that he ever was a Mormon; he was in custody when killed; as to Nigger Tom, he never went through the Endowment House; I never was a Freemason; I paid the initiation fee, but backed out; I heard a man who was a Freemason say the Endowment ceremony was very similar to that of the Masons; the penalties of the Endowment were to be literal; the Kingdom of God was to be a literal affair.

To Mr. Young-I know of men who have apostatized. It took some courage years ago to do it. Now most of the apostates are in the Church. I knew a man named Mills.

told to us, and we believed it would Moses was god to Israel. He was
be done. I was acquainted with my god. He was every Saint's
Porter Rockwell, Bill Hickman and god. That was the doctrine of the
Lot Huntington. They were the Church, and I preached it. All
leaders of three gangs of murderers, the leading Elders of the Church
the blood atoners, the Danites and preached it. They're all dead but
the avenging angels. They exe-me and Woodruff. I don't know
cuted the commands of Brigham any man living but myself who
Young, who was god on earth. I preached this. Barney Carter was
knew John D. Lee, W. H. Dame Dame's destroying angel, because
and others. John D. Lee was a he sent him after me. Barney af-
member of the legislature, and mar- terwards told me that he was ap-
ried two wives after the Mountain pointed to murder. He got tired of
Meadow massacre. He was on good "Mormonism," and went to San
terms with Brigham Young. Isaac Bernardino. He is living there
Haight was with Lee in 1857. now.
There were no other penalties ex-
cept as I have mentioned, and these
were for disobedience to the Priest
hood and revealing the secrets of
the Endownent House. Wm. Laney
entertained one of the members of
the company killed at the Mountain
Meadows. The young man asked
for some onions, and Laney gave
them to him. Dame sent Barney
Carter, a destroying angel, and he
hit Laney with a picket, and he has
never been of sound mind since.

To Mr. Moyle--I was not present when the young man was at La

At this point recess was taken ney's, but Laney told me, that's all until 2 p.m.

This afternoon

JAMES MCGUFFIE

was the first witness called. He testified-I live at 425 east Seventh South Street; have been in Salt Lake 15 years; lived in Parowan six months before then; came to Utah in 1850, and went to Iron County; with George A. Smith and others established Parowan Jan. 13, 1851, and remained till 1874; Parowan is near the scene of the Mountain Meadow massacre; the Bishop would not let those people pass through the town, and would not let us deal with them.

Mr. Moyle objected to this testimony.

Judge Anderson-Let it go in; he may answer the questions.

I know about it; in the Endowment House I covenanted that I would have my throat cut and my bowels cut out if I rebelled against the Priesthood or revealed the secrets there; that was if I broke the covenants to do all I could to break up the government of the United States. This was not said to me personally, but it was in instructions given to us; it was "Do as you are told and ask no questions." One thing is a law one day and another another day. The authorities make the law. I've as good a head as any man in this country. John D. Lee told me he was only a tool, and he said he had been made a scapegoat. The people all turned against him, and he was treated as an outcast by all the brethren and sisters in Parowan, except me and my wife. We were his only friends after the Mountain McGuffie, continuing-The emi- Meadows affair. All the other grants had to go outside of the town. people shunned him. Fifteen years Col. W. H. Dame and Bishop Lewis ago I was at Edward Callister's would not let them come in. I house. I don't remember telling joined the Church in April, 1840, in these things there. My wife did not Liverpool; went through the En- tell me that I was lying. I call that dowment House Nov. 10, 1856; a slander on my character. I did Brigham Young, Heber C. Kim' not confess that I lied. The Morball and Samuel W. Rich- mon people respect me, and I have ards were there; I went through no enmity toward them. I believe only once; that was enough for me. the heads of the Church are the There was a party of ten to fourteen greatest scoundrels that ever lived. came up from Parowan; after our I don't feel vindictive to anyone but washings and anointings we pre- Angus M. Cannon. I don't hate the sented our tithing receipts. They heads of the Church. I am friendly then required us to take an oath, to them; they never injured me. I and to teach our children and our have no malice towards them. I think children's children to do all we they are under a great delusion and could to uproot the American gov- I pity them. I have friendly feelernment, because they had not ings toward them, but if I wanted a punished the murderers of Joseph favor I would not go to them. I reSmith. We took an oath that we gard them as scoundrels. I know would obey the Priesthood in all there were three bands of murderthings; we were citizens of the ers, because it was in everybody's Kingdom of God, and were to be mouth. I only know what I was enemies of the government of the told about it. Everybody knew it United States, because they did not just as I do. I know as much as avenge the blood of Joseph and anybody, by report. They were Hyrum. 'The penalties were all Saints in those days. to have our throats cut, and our There were no sinners hearts and bowels torn out. Brigham was god on earth. The penalty was death. That was said he was god to this people as

To Mr. Dickson-I have no animosity to any but Angus M. Cannon, because he owes me $100 for wheat. I know the leaders of the Church led me astray. It was in 1868 and 1859 when none of the people would fellowship John D. Lee. Bishop Dame treated Lee and Haight as outcasts. Dame was not there at the time of the massacre, but came next day, and when he saw the dead bodies he cried like a child. He said he would send word to Brigham Young. I was not there but somebody told me. My wife is living, and went through the Endowment House with me. She is not a member of the Church.

ANDREW CAHOON was recalled and testified-I was a Bishop at the time I withdrew from the Church. I have never heard of any change in the Endowment House oath.

Court-What was the tendency of the teachings in the Endowment House toward promoting a friendly feeling for the government?

Cahoon-It was to alienate the people.

Court--Did it alienate them?
Cahoon-It did.
Court-What was the expression
of feeling-was it unfriendly?

Cahoon-It was very unfriendly.

To Baskin-The teachings of the leaders of the Church brought about the Utah rebellion.

To R. W. Young-I got my endowments in 1845 or 1846, shortly after the death of Joseph and Hyrum. The people believed the governor of Illinois was responsible. Mobs came against the people. In Missouri the "Mormons" tried to vote, and they were driven out with considerable hardship and loss of property and life. I got my endowments after that. I think the unfriendly feeling was not altogether the result of this treatment. The leaders taught the people to sustain the Kingdom of God on earth. The head of the Church was the king. I did not understand that the Savior was the king. Brigham Young proclaimed himself king to the pioneers. I did not hear him, for I was not in Utah. I am acquainted with the Lord's prayer. It asks that the Kingdom of God should come. I regard that as a spiritual affair, not temporal. Some Christians believe the Savior will come to earth as King. I regard it as treasonable to pray for the overthrow of the govthen ernment. I have heard the leaders of Heber the Church do this. It is so common that every child knows it. I

heard Wilford Woodruff do it; it is very common for him to do that. To Mr. Dickson-I was not pres ent at the dedication of the Manti Temple.

To Mr. Baskin-I have heard the children sing a song in which they designate Brigham as Prophet, Priest and King.

JAMES SPILLETT testified-I live at Cottonwood. I am registration officer and have been postmaster; came to Utah in 1853; joined the Church in 1851, in England; left the Church 20 years ago. I went through the Endowment House 23 or 24 years ago; 25 to 40 went through the same day. We took an oath that day. It was administered by Edward Stevenson. There was an oath regarding the avenging of the blood of the Prophets and Apostles on this nation, and to teach it to our children to the third and fourth generation. We took an oath of obedience to the Priesthood in all things. There was a penalty attached to each oath, such as suffering our throats to be cut or we would be disemboweled before we would divulge any of the secrets of the Endowment House. Polygamy was taught there, and we made a covenant to sustain all the principles, which of course include that.

To the Court-No oath is adminis

tered to any member of the Church before going to the Endowment House. Of course there is the cove nant of baptism. It is expected that every member of the Church in good standing will go through the Endowment House to secure his family in the hereafter.

CHARLES GILMOR,

known as the "North Point Terror," testified-I came to Utah in 1866; joined the Church in 1868, and left it early in the '70's; I went through the Endowment House.

Mr. Moyle-Does the Court say the entire proceedings of the Endowment House shall be asked for here?

Court-If it is necessary to determine whether there is anything incompatible with citizenship.

Gilmor-I have suffered great persecution, and if I tell that, my life will be in danger. I ask that you will excuse me.

his highest obligation to come out and expose it. The good of society and his duty to his country call on him to divulge those secrets.

R. W. Young-Myself and my friend, Mr. Moyle, will unite to insure his life for $10,000 if he is scared. Mr. Baskin-I could never belong to such an iniquity. LeGrand Young-It is altogether too righteous for you.

The Court asked Gilmor if he was afraid to testify.

Gilmor-It is for my wife and little ones; for myself I have no tear.

Court-We would like to have the testimony.

Gilmor-We went through a tedious ceremony, and then went into another room and put on a robe. We took an oath to yield unquestioning and unqualified obedience

will say to the court that this instruction which I have named has nothing whatever to do with the government. It has no reference to it whatever.

Mr. Dickson said there were a number of witnesses whom they had not a chance to confer with, and suggested an adjournment till 9 a.m., and he believed they could finish within an hour.

Mr. askin-There is one witness, Joseph Silver, that we can examine.

JOSEPH SILVER testified-I have lived in Utah since 1862; was a member of the "Mormon" Church five or six years after then; was baptized in 1848; was ordained to the Melchisedec Priesthood, and have been an Elder and a Seventy; went through the Endowment House in 1863; there were the Priesthood, and to use every oaths administered there. One that meaus to avenge the blood of the made a lasting impression was one martyrs on the American nation. about avenging the blood of the I raised my left hand. There was Prophets on their enemies; am not the question, "Are there any traitors certain the nation was referred to. here?" A reply came from over- I was to teach it to my children; head, "They are all faithful." An was also to obey the Priesthood in arm was pushed through a door, the all things. If I failed I should be hand holding a sword. The penalty disemboweled, the heart cut out, the was dissection of the body. Noth-throat cut, and so on. Dr. Sprague ing was said about polygamy, but that was a doctrine of the Church, and of course it was included.

JAMES H. MOYLE

officiated there. I held my right hand to the square and took the oath of obedience to the Priesthood in all things, and the penalty for breaking this was, as I have said, assassinawas called as a witness. He said he tion. I was called upon to promise placed himself under no obligations, in the presence of God and angels for he considered the proceedings to keep this covenant. The Enunwarranted. He testified-I re-dowment garments have marks on. ceived my endowments two years (Baskin called them "clouts.") ago this month. I took no oath These marks signified the same as whatever there. I know Gilmor as the penalties as regards the heart the "North Point Terror;" he is al- and bowels. There is one on the ways in trouble, and charges the knees, but I don't remember what Church with it. His trouble is with it means. his neighbors, both "Mormon” and non-"Mormon." I never heard him refuse before to testify. I did hear him claim to a jury that the "Mormon" Church were after him. I have made no mistake. He went through the same farce as he has done here. He claimed that he was In danger of his life if he testified. I was through the Endowment House first about twelve years ago. I took no obligation of obedience to the Priesthood.

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Mr. Moyle-I decline to answer. There was no covenant except for chastity, honor and good conduct. There was no reference whatever to the government. That is my explanation to the court for not answer

Mr. Moyle-This is an outrage. This man has been put on here for effect. He has tried this same plan before, that he is afraid to testify, and its all a sham, a humbug. I say it is an outrage to put such a witness on here, just to effect an in-ing. justice.

Court-Do you fear you will be injured?

Gilmor-The obligation is such that it would seal my doom if I was to utter one word.

Court The United States government is able to protect you. I think there is no danger, but if you really are afraid I will not compel you.

Mr. Baskin-I have known this witness a long time, and I would take his word for truth and veracity as quick as any man's. A man is not bound by such an oath as this man is being asked about, and it is

To Mr. Dickson-There was nothing said regarding Joseph and Hyrum Smith. The passage of Scripture. in Revelations, regarding the blood of the Prophets, was read in an address, and we were instructed to pray that God would avenge the blood of his martyred Prophets.

Mr. Dickson-Was the penalty of death to be inflicted?

Mr. Moyle-I decline to answer. Mr. Baskin-Was there anything about cutting the throat or being disemboweled?

Mr. Moyle-Will you specify any oath? If not, I decline to answer. I

Mr. Moyle made another objection to the unseemly proceeding of exposing any of the sacred rights of an organization simply because that organization was unpopular. The courts had ruled that they should be protected when they were not unlawful. This proceeding only for the sake of exposure, and the defense here should have some protection.

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Mr. Baskin said that an Endowment garment had signs to keep the person in mind of the penalties to he inflicted.

Court-He may answer the questions.

Silver, continuing-The impression I obtained was that if I was unfaithful in disrobing myself there was every probability or possibility of my being sick and dying-that it was unsafe to leave them off. Heber C. Kimball instructed me how to put them on.

To Mr. Moyle-The penalty for disobedience to the Priesthood was that my throat should be cut, etc. That was to be done by some Danite, I suppose. I was not told how. It was not that I would suffer these penalties rather than reveal these things. They were too cunning to use the term assassinate. The word government was not used. The blood of the Prophets was to be avenged by the destruction of the government of the United States. The fact in my mind is that that

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