tioned at Wakarusa. Captain Shaw wrote me a pass, which sheriff Jones countersigned. I then left for Kansas City, about the middle of he day, in company with the same gentleman with whom I came. At Franklin I was met by two horsemen, who told me I could not pass. I stated that I had a pass from sheriff Jones. They said that sheriff Jones had no authority. I said I had a pass from Captain Shaw, of company A. They said they knew nothing of any Captain Shaw, or his authority. Having still in possession the pass that Governor Shannon had given me the Thursday previous, to enable me to return from Wakarusa to Lawrence, I inquired whether a pass from Governor Shannon would be sufficient, and they said it would not. They finally rode back with us a few rods, to where the stationary guard stood, and consented to look at the pass of Captain Shaw. Mr. Eldridge offered them some cigars he had with him, and finally they let us go along. On reaching the woods near Wakarusa, we were again stopped. The sentry was very obliging, glanced at the pass, and said he would not be very strict. He said that some of the boys had just been examining a loaded wagon, overhauling some boxes in it, and pointed out the wagon and boxes standing at a little distance, which proceeding, he thought, was uncalled for. We went on to the ford, found one or two sentries who stopped us, whom we told we had a pass, and we were then permitted to go on. I then saw some horsemen taking leave of some others, and then they started off east.

I saw some wagon-loads of men also going east, and the camp was evidently breaking up. On the way to Kansas City we passed several horsemen and wagon-loads of men. This I think was on Saturday, the 8th of December last. On the Monday following I returned to Lawrence, the camp was dispersed, and I met with no challenges on the road. I met Governor Shannon on the way returning east. He said that the difficulties were over, but said he thought he should resign his office; that the difficulties of the office were too great for him to retain it. He spoke of resigning his office from apprehension of difficulties in the future.

I have been subsequently told by a gentleman, whose name I find as adjutant on the pass given by General Strickler, when he retained. the one given me by Governor Shannon, and which was John Martin, that the actual number of men assembled on the Wakarusa was over 1,200. On going from here to the Wakarusa on the Thursday mentioned, I saw a prisoner whom the guards had taken, and whom they said they were taking to camp, and who was struggling violently against it. The prisoner was placed on horseback, and he would not remain on it. He was in the hands of men who, the sentries told me, were a part of the forces. He struggled violently, and one of them said to him, "God damn your abolition heart.' The last I saw of him he was being dragged along by two of them, one on each side. It was not alleged, as I heard, that he had committed any offence. When I was at the camp at Wakarusa, for the purpose of seeing Governor Shannon, on my remonstrating with sheriff Jones on the arrests of persons without any offence being alleged against them,

he admitted that General Pomeroy had been arrested without anything being charged against him at all.

To Mr. Howard:

Sheriff Jones represented to me that this arrest was made without his authority, and he was not responsible for it; that the men there could arrest whom they chose. I remonstrated with him against keeping General Pomeroy under such circumstances; to which he made no reply. General Pomeroy was then in the camp.

Cross-examined by Mr. Woodson:

At the first interview with Governor Shannon, he stated that the force assembled here at Lawrence was a posse of the sheriff. He stated that the force had assembled in consequence of his proclamation, based upon the statement of sheriff Jones, that a prisoner had been rescued from his hands, and he. wanted additional force to enable him. to retake the prisoner and those who rescued him. He said nothing about Lawrence being in a state of armed defence and rebellion; this was in the first interview. In the second interview Governor Shannon disclaimed the force as being under his control, or under the command of the sheriff. He stated his proclamation was not intended to bring those men into the Territory, and that he had no control over them. I do not think he said anything about his having legal authority. He disclaimed the power to control them, or wish to use them. In the first interview he claimed that these persons were there as a part of the sheriff's posse, and had a right to be there. In the second interview I remember nothing said touching his authority. There was scarcely any discussion between us at the second interview, though there was considerable in the first interview. He expressed a regret that the men had ever come into the Territory, an indisposition to use their services, and a disbelief in his own power to control them. I did not hear him disclaim any authority over these men. Sheriff Jones said to me that he had been resisted in the execution of the laws, in the rescue of Branson; that he had been rescued by a force of about forty men; that he himself had counted thirty-eight men ; and that he was determined to discharge the duty of sheriff at every hazard. That is the substance of his expressed determination; that he had summoned the volunteers as his posse, and that they were such; but stated at the same time that he could not control them. He said nothing about his having attempted to arrest men in this town, and being resisted, as one of the reasons for calling out this force. He stated that his life had been threatened, and that he had several times. been in Lawrence to give men a chance to shoot him if they wished, and should continue to come here whenever he chose. The first that I saw of these men was when I was on my way to Kansas City. That was on Saturday, the 1st of December. It was between Saturday and Wednesday that I heard the threats used in Kansas City. When I passed through Lawrence, on my way down to Kansas City, I saw no preparations of defence here. I knew of no preparations of arms and ammunitions of war before that time. When I returned to this place they were preparing for defence, throwing up breastworks,

and drilling. I left here on Saturday the 1st, and returned on the following Wednesday. I was told by various persons here that there were from seven hundred to eight hundred men here. Of Sharpe's rifles I was told, in the same way, that there were about two hundred. I knew of one piece of artillery being brought into town during its investment. I have no knowledge of any other piece, and was told there was not any other. I think there was very little ammunition here, from the fact that two ladies went out and brought in some during the siege. I knew of no cannon-balls being here, and of no ammunition, except what was brought here with the cannon. There were guards placed about the city. I know nothing of their number, but can simply state that there was a sentry placed on the main road leading to Franklin, about a quarter of a mile from this building, and there were guards placed along on the river-so I was told. I do not know of any guards being placed out a mile or so; I saw none of them. I never received a challenge on coming into Lawrence from any men here, though I was told by guards in the other camp that I would be challenged here. I know that there was intended to be a guard or scouting party out in the night-time; but I do not know about their being out in the day-time. I understood that there were passwords and countersigns in the night-time, though I do not know about the day-time. I think these countersigns were not required during the day and night, before persons were permitted to enter Lawrence, though I think it was intended to be done,in the night. I heard here that two or three of the enemy's picket or patrol guards were taken on one occasion, and brought into town here by our patrol-one of them because he had a horse that was stolen.from town here. They were relieved in the morning.

To Mr. Reeder:

As I was passing down to Kansas City, the first time, I met a cannon, drawn by two horses, coming this way. I did not recognize any of the parties with the cannon, but they appeared to be of the same parties as others I met coming up. I remember meeting two gentle men coming up, one of whom was said to be Colonel Woodson, of Independence.

To Mr. Sherman :

I went down on Saturday, and met these men and the cannon, and had an interview with Governor Shannon, the first time, on the Tuesday following.

To Mr. Reeder:

The threats to which I alluded in thefirst part of my testimony, included threats against the American Hotel in Kansas City, as being obnoxious in the same way as was the city of Lawrence. Threats were made that it would be destroyed, and much anxiety was felt by its inmates, of which I was one, and the citizens generally. I understood the ground of hostility to the hotel to be that it was kept for the convenience of northern emigration to Kansas Territory. That, so far as I know, was the exclusive ground of hostility to the hotel.

During the latter part of that week a meeting of the citizens of Kansas City was called, and a deputation sent to the camp at Wakarusa with a statement, which I have since seen in print, relating to the threats. which had been made, and the political opinions of the proprietors of the American Hotel, for the purpose of securing the property from destruction, on the return of the forces here encamped to Missouri.

This statement was printed, and distributed, in the form of a circular. I know the hotel to have been bought by the present proprietors from the Emigrant Aid Company. During the time I was in Kansas City, I frequently saw parties crossing the Missouri river on their way to join the forces investing Lawrence. I counted at one time seventeen armed horsemen in one of these parties, who uttered the most hideous yells and shrieks, and threats against the abolitionists. I saw similar parties returning across the ferry at Kansas City.

To Mr. Woodson:

The town of Kansas is on the extreme edge of the State of Missouri. J. M. WINCHELL.

LAWRENCE, K. T., May 1, 1856.

To Mr. Reeder:

HOMME HEYES called and sworn.

I was taken by the troops on the Wakarusa last December. I had been asked by Dr. Hall, of Franklin, to go with two men on horseback and show them the ford of the Kansas river. He told me these two men were chiefs of the Wyandot tribe. I refused, as I did not know the ford. He was rather displeased at that. I told him I would conduct them to one of the neighbors, who would probably know better than I did. I then started with them towards Garvin's, where I met Bill Straub, a neighbor of mine, and he took them to the ford, and I returned to Franklin. I saw some young men there sitting on a pile of logs, with their knives out, flourishing them. There were companies gathered in the street that afternoon. One man called me to him in the street, and I went up to him. He called me a God damned spy, and said he was going to take me down. He wanted to drive me ahead of the horses, and I refused. They furnished a horse that was not saddled to ride on, and we started. They had tumbled me round from one side to the other, and one man had hold of the halter, and I thought it was not necessary for me to take the reins. He came up scolding me, and said, "You God damned Dutch abolitionist to hell! take the reins. I told him I never heard the word abolitionist in my country, and did not know what it meant. They took me down to the camp to a tent there. The guard was round the tent, and, when they pushed me in, I found more prisoners there. They kept me there three days; we were released on Saturday. They threatened around the tent to hang us. There was a brass piece of cannon before the tent the morning we were released. The sheriff, or the one they called sheriff, and one of the officers-I believe his name

was General Strickler-came up with revolvers in their hands, and took us up to headquarters. The general then released us, and gave us a pass, and then started towards the guard. One let me pass, and the other stopped me because the pass was not dated. I went back to the headquarters; the general gave me another pass, which enabled me to get by the guard and on home. I live 3 miles below here, on the Kaw river-between Franklin and the river.

LAWRENCE, K. T., May 3, 1856.

HOMME HEYES.

ALVIN B. BRONSON called and sworn.

I was the driver of the mail-coach during the troubles last fall and winter, and was the sub-contractor to carry the mails between Kansas City and Topeka. When I was coming from Kansas City, while the forces were encamped on the Wakarusa, I was stopped by some of them about five o'clock in the afternoon. They said at first they intended to keep me there all night. After keeping me about an hour and a half, they let me go. The next morning, as I was going back, the picket-guard made me go into camp and get a pass before I was allowed to go on. I went and got the pass, and was then allowed to go After that, I made my regular trips without being detained any more by them. I knew of their stopping other teams; there was one in camp while I was there the first time.

on.

LAWRENCE, K. T., May 12, 1856.

A. B. BRONSON. .

JAMES S. LEGATE called and sworn.

I came into the Territory the last of July, 1855, from Mississippi. I was born in Massachusetts. I know Samuel J. Jones, sheriff. I have seen him quite frequently. I made his acquaintance among some of his earliest visits to Lawrence as sheriff. I have had several conversations with him concerning the difficulties here at Lawrence last fall. At one time we had quite an extended conversation upon that subject. I wanted to obtain from him his object in arraying the force from Missouri against us. This conversation took place in Laws rence, after the difficulties were over, about the last of December. I asked him, if he thought those men whom he wished to arrest Mr. Bronson, who was rescued from him, were in Lawrence, why he did not come for them in person. He said that he had been looking at affairs about Lawrence for some time, and had come to the conclusion that so nearly equal were the forces of the Territory divided, the one part free-State and the other pro-slavery, the only alternative was to fight it out. I then asked him, if they were so nearly equal, why he went to Missouri for his friends there; why not let the citizens of the Territory fight it out if they wanted to fight. His reply was, that we