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we procured from the navy-office, on which the balance in the hands of the treasurer appears to be two hundred fixty thousand, feven hundred and fixteen pounds, one fhilling and eight-pence farthing.

Being made acquainted thus far with the courfe of business in this office, our next step was to refolve this balance of three hundred-fortyeight thoufand, nine hundred and forty-one pounds, eleven fhillings and nine pence into its conftituent parts, and compare the q quantum of each part, as far as we could, with the actual and probable demands of fervice upon it on the 31st of Auguft, the date of his re

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The first circumftance that engaged our attention, was a difference between the treasurer's balance and the navy balance, upon the fame day, the 31st of Auguft, the former exceeding the latter by the fum of eighty-eight thousand, two hundred and twenty-five pounds ten fhillings and three farthings: this difference lies in the cashier's and victualling branches, and arifes from the following caufe: when the three boards affign bills upon the treasurer for payment, they immediately give him credit for thofe bills, in his account kept at their offices; but the treasurer does not himself take credit for any bills in his own account till he actually pays them. The perfons who receive thefe bills do not always immediately prefent them to the treasurer for payment, but frequently keep them in their poffeffion for a confiderable time. The treasurer's balance must therefore exceed the navy balance as much as the fum of the bills affigned upon him for payment ex

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ceeds the fum of the bills actually paid by him. We conceive this excess is not money for which the treasurer is accountable to the public, but belongs to the proprietors of thofe bills, and remains in his hands, at their risk, until they apply to him for payment. This fum, therefore, we think, fhould be deducted from his balance.

We, in the next place, obferved that feveral fums in each branch were not actually in the hands of the treafurer, but of his officers and clerks, either carrying on fervices in London, or at the diftant ports, whither these fums were directed to be fent by the navy-board, to carry on the fervices at thofe ports. It may reasonably be prefumed, that the boards would not have directed into the hands of the officers, nor the treasurer have entrufted them with, larger fums than were wanted; and therefore these fums too, may be deducted from the treasurer's balance; which will reduce the public money actually in his hands to the fum of one hundred, twenty-eight thousand, eighty-three pounds, fixteen fhillings, and ten pence farthing. The conftituent parts of this balance, under their feve ral heads of fervice, confifting of a variety of articles, are stated in the navy certificate: : fome of them carry the appearance of having been applied for fooner than the fervices feem to have required: but, upon examination, we find that the boards do not direct an application for a fupply to any fund, until they know that fund is nearly, or likely foon to be exhaufted. The treafury are fometimes prevented from granting the

iffue until many days after it is craved; and therefore the boards are careful to apply early enough, to guard against the hazard of a demand upon an exhaufted fund. To fearch into the actual and probable demands, at that time, upon each of thefe fums, was hardly practicable: one circumftance alone might enable us to judge with fufficient accuracy, whether the fum total was too large or not; that is, in what time this balance was in fact paid away by the treasurer. It appears from his accounts for the month of Auguft, that this whole balance, and much more, was received by him during that month: and by his accounts for the mor.th of September, tranfmitted to us pursuant to our requifition, it appears that not only the balance remaining on the 31ft of Auguft, but a much larger fum, was in fact paid away by him during the fucceeding month. Confidering therefore, this fum by itfelf, independent of, and unconnected with his other receipts and payments, prior and fubfequent to the date of this balance, we have no grounds to fay that this individaal fum, received in one month, and paid away in the next, was more than the fervice required fhould be in the hands of the treafurer of the navy upon the 31ft of August laft.

and paid by the treasurer of the navy, for every month from the 1ft of January 1779, to the 31ft of Auguft laft, with the total of the balances remaining in his hands at the end of each month, as they appear in the monthly certificates to the treasury.

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As the public money fhould pafs without delay from the pocket of the fubject into the exchequer, fo it ought not to iffue out of the exchequer, either before it is wanted, or in larger fums than the fervice for which it is iffued requires. By this laft account, a very large fum has been conftantly in his hands, during the period therein mentioned, exclufive of the amount of bills affigned upon him, but not prefented to him for payment. The principal caufe of the magnitude of this balance, is the tice, in this office, of not applying money iffued under one head, towards fatisfying a demand upon any other head of fervice; the confequence of which is, when the money upon the account of any head of fervice is nearly exhaufted, a fupply muft be procured for that fervice, how abundant foever the fums upon other heads of accounts, or the fum total of his cafh, may be. Were all the fums he receives to conftitute and be confidered as one common general cash, and be applied indifcriminately to every fervice, a much lefs fum than the lowest of the balances in the account last-mentioned would, in our opinion, fuffice to carry on the current fervices of the navy, even various and extenfive as they To now are. It would create no confufion in the accounts; for the receipts and payments under each head of fervice might ftill be kept

But it was neceffary to extend our enquiry fill farther. What is the amount of the fum that has been continually in the hands of the treafurer of the navy; and has that fum been more than the current fervices required? come at this knowledge, we obtained from the navy office an account of the total fums received

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diftinct; and though the payments might frequently exceed the receipts on fome heads of accounts; yet the treasurer would not be without fufficient cash, and the next iffue from the exchequer would restore the balances. What the fum neceffary for carrying on the service should be, muft depend upon circumstances: it will be different at different times, and must be left principally to the difcretion of those commiffioners, from whom the direction for fupplies moves, who, being converfant in the bufinefs, can best determine. But, to enable the lords of the treafury likewife to judge of the propriety of, and be a check and controul upon, the requifition, we are of opinion, that, befides the certificate fent every month from the navy-board, an account of the fum total of the balance in the hands of the treasurer of the navy, fhould be inferted in every application for a fupply to the treafury.

We have not been inattentive to defects ; we have observed in this office, during the courfe of our inquiries, defects which concern the officer, the office, and the public.

The treasurer finds his bufinefs does not end with his office; his accounts are ftill open: he goes, on, receiving and paying, until he feels himself, his family, and his fortune, fubject to all the evils of long public accounts far in arrear, and the difficulties of rendering an account increafing daily: he continues refponfible for millions, without an expectation of obtaining his final discharge during his life.

The office is perplexed with a multiplicity of these accounts.

There are four diftinct accounts, of four treasurers of the navy, ať this time open at the pay-office, and bufinefs is carried on upon every one of them at the fame time, by the fame officers, when the current bufinefs of the present treasurer alone would find employment enough for them all.

There have been iffued to three of thefe treasurers, for the navy fervice, upwards of thirty-three millions, the accounts of which are not paffed; exclufive of above twenty-five millions to the late Mr. Grenville, whose final account is not yet fettled; and of fixteen millions to the present treafurer, none of whofe accounts could as yet be fettled.

The navy accounts in July laft, when the impreft certificate was tranfmitted to us, were in arrear in the office of the auditor of the impreft twenty-two years. This delay is occafioned by the accounts of the fubfequent years not being made up at the pay-office, of the navy, where there is a want of officers and clerks for this department. A fufficient number of perfons, intelligent in this branch, fhould forthwith be provided by the proper authority, with adequate falaries, for the fole purpose of proceeding upon, bringing forward, and making up thefe accounts, with as much difpatch as the nature of the business will admit.

By this delay in making up the accounts, the public lofes the use, at leaft, of confiderable fums of their own money; not that the principal itself has always been fafe. A defaulter of above twentyfeven thousand pounds ftands at the head of the list of treasurers of

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the navy upon the impreft certifi

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We enquired why a treasurer, under the prefent conftitution of the office, might not, upon his refignation, immediately pay over his balance to the fucceffor, or into the exchequer, and all the fubfequent tranfactions of office be carried on by the treasurer for the time being-Two reafons were affigned for the neceflity of keep -ing open his accounts, though out of office.

Ift. That fufficient time may be given to his fub- accountants to clear their imprefts.

The fub-accountants are cer tainly very numerous; and as, act cording to the prefent mode of paffing thefe accounts, they muft all be se tinfuper upon the final account, was that account to be made up foon after the expiration of the treasurership, it would be very voluminous and troublesome to the office. But, fince the trea, furer in office does now clear the imprefts of fome of his predeceffors, and can clear the imprefts of all, and the three boards can, at their pleafure, call upon the fub accountants to clear their imprefts, we do not think this reason. conclufive.

2d. That the payment of his fhips books may be completed.

A fhip's book is a voucher for the treasurer who pays it: two cannot pay upon the fame book; it would create confufion, as the payments of the one could not, with out great trouble and difficulty, be diftinguished from thofe of the other; it could not therefore be made a voucher for two treasurers. To enable a treasurer in office to carry on the payment of a fhip's

book open in the time of his predeceffor, the names of all the fea men not paid must be abstracted, and entered in a new book; a work of great labour and length of time, where the books are fo numerous; and during all that time, no payment of wages could be made to the feamen unpaid upon those books.

Upon the examination of a ship's book, there appears a foundation for this objection, which opens a door for a poffible mifchief, worthy confideration. It is in the power of a treasurer of the navy, retiring in disgust, to refufe carrying on any more payments, and by that means to put a stop, for eight months or more, to the payment of all the feamen on the numerous volumes of fhips books open at the feveral ports in his treasurerfhip Mr. Grenville left open above thirteen hundred. This evil does not reft in fpeculation; we have an inftance of it in evidence. The office that does not guard against the poffibility of fuch an evil, is fundamentally defective..

Thefe defects fhould be speedily corrected. To alter the conftitu tion of the office; to abolish the fubordinate treasury; to render a treasurer the mere accountant; and to vary the mode of accounting, carry with them a ftrong appear ance of an effectual remedy: but were we, in the prefent ftate of our inquiries, to come to decisions of fuch moment, we fhould be premature, perhaps rafh. It is easier to fee the defects than to fupply the regulation. The pay of the navy is an important ob ject, and any alteration in the mode fhould be well weighed before it is adopted; it fhould be

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traced through all its effects, and perfectly afcertained to be as feafi ble in practice, as it is fpecious in theory. To difturb, to confound, or to delay (effects not unfrequent, when novelty of form is introduced, and new principles applied to an old office) might be attended with very serious confequences.

The defects, to which we have

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Heads of the principal A&ts of Parliament from Nov. 1, 1780, to July 18, 1781.

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alluded, prefented themfelves in A of mariners and feamen, to

the courfe of an examination made, in obediènce to the Act, for a more limited purpose. Coming however, before us, they are, in our opinion, too important to be paffed over in filence; we thought it our duty to point them out, that, fhould they be deemed a proper fubject for the exercife of the wifdom of the legislature, the folid advantages, which would refult to the public from their correction, might not be delayed. Had we protracted this report until we were poffeffed, of materials for a well grounded opinion upon thefe points, we must have difobeyed the Act, that enjoins us to report, in the firit place, upon the balances in the hands of accountants in this feffion of parliament, to the end that the public money, long ago iffued, and fill remaining in their hands, may, with all convenient fpeed, be reftored to the protection of the public. 253

GUY CARLETON,

(L.S.)

TANGUISH,

(L.S.y

A. PIGGOTT,

(L. S.)

RICHARD NEAVE,

(L.S.)

(L. S.)

Office of Accounts, Bell-Yard,

SAM. BEACHCROFT, (L.S.)

GEO. DRUMMOND,

March 6, 1781.

VOL. XXIV.

ferve in his majesty's fhips of war, and on board merchant fhips, and other trading fhips and veffels.

An Act for extending the provifions of three Acts made in the 18th, 19th, and 20th years of his prefent majefty's reign, with refpect to bringing prize goods into this kingdom, to prizes taken!

from the States General of the United Provinces; for declaring: what goods fhall be deemed military or fhip ftores; for regulating the fale of, and afcertaining the duties upon East-India goods, condemned as prize in the port of London; for permitting the purchafers of prize goods, condemned abroad, to import fuch goods into this kingdom, under the like regulations and advantages as are granted by law to the captors them felves; and for reducing the duties on foreign prize tobacco.

An Act for the encouragement" of feamen, and for the more speedy and effectual manning of his majefty's navy.

An Act for keeping the militia" forces of this kingdom complete, during the time therein mentioned; and for regulating the admiffion of fubftitutes to ferve in the' militia.

An Act to permit the importa[r]

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